“If I honor my sadness and I don't try to get away from it and I feel to the bottom of my sadness, there's really just gratitude that I even get to hold my son, hold my partner, and experience life. That is an extreme recipe for living life fucking well if I can just honor the sadness about that. That is living; honoring the sadness is living. Being in fear is not living.” – Josh Trent
Wellness + Wisdom Episode 449
In this special Quadcast, Josh Trent is joined by fellow podcasters and previous Wellness + Wisdom guests, Cal Callahan, Luke Storey, and Dr. John Lieurance to explore the magic of vision quests and rites of passages in life, how to begin unpacking your fears, how to heal your allostatic load of chronic stress, and the powerful medicine that comes from the wounded healer.
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[click_to_tweet tweet=”If I honor my sadness and I really feel it, there's really just gratitude that I even get to hold my son. That is living; honoring the sadness is living. Being in fear is not living.” quote=”If I honor my sadness and I really feel it, there's really just gratitude that I even get to hold my son. That is living; honoring the sadness is living. Being in fear is not living.”]
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Listen To Episode 449 As Josh, Cal, Luke, and Dr. John Uncover:
[1:30] The Magic of a Vision Quest
- 400 Cal Callahan
- 361 Luke Storey
- 436 Dr. John Lieurance
- Part 1 Vision Quest: Honoring Our Ancestors
- Part 2 Vision Quest: Touching Death
- 405 Tim Corcoran
- The Great Unlearn: Episode 59: Vision Quests, The Hungry Ghost, and Armoring Ourselves with Overindulgences | Josh Trent
- Josh's experience doing now two vision quests and how the experiences differed.
- What Josh explored during this second vision quest and how a sinus infection impacted it.
- 196 Aubrey Marcus : Owning The Day, Open Relationships, & Skipping Breakfast?
- Josh's addiction to stress and how the vision quest helped him begin to let go of it.
- The deep money wound in Josh's family's lineage and why he now sees wellness as a pentagon which includes financial intelligence.
- Ultimate gifts from the quest that were given to Josh and how he's incorporating that into his life.
- The trauma that Carrie and Josh went through as their son, Novah, spent several days in the NICU.
- How Josh is working to heal his trauma and become a fully embodied man.
[17:15] The Science of Fasting
- Exploring the science of fasting with Dr. John Lieurance.
- MitoZen
- The importance of taking time to integrate wisdom learned after an experience like a vision quest, plant medicine, or psychedelics.
- The Great Unlearn Ep 82. Dr. John Lieurance | Optimizing Your Body’s Cleansing Process With Melatonin
- Not Just for Sleep: Melatonin | The Master Molecule & Next Level Biohacks
- Exploring the vitality of the body, mastering of the mind, forgiving filters in life, and the direct experience with God to live life well according to Dr. John.
- The fact that fasting has been a natural way of being for our body since the dawn of man.
- Proper methods of fasting and what you have to keep in mind about ketones, ketosis, and autophagy.
- H.V.M.N.
- Which exogenous ketones you can keep in mind while shopping around to help train your body to see ketones as energy to prep for fasting.
- Feel Free by Botanic Tonics
- 401 Jerry Ross
- Why Feel Free from Botanic Tonics will not break your fast.
- How kratom in Feel Free suppresses appetite and can be beneficial for your fasting experience.
[25:00] To Fast or Not to Fast?
- 389 Dave Asprey
- Bulletproof Coffee
- How intermittent fasting can impact people differently whether positively or negatively.
- Dr. Jack Kruse
- Surviving The City With Spiritual Science With Dr. Jack Kruse
- What fasting may or may not be something to do at different stages of your life.
- Why Luke loves eating first thing in the morning and then tapering off food as it gets closer to bedtime.
- 299 Christa Orecchio
- Why you shouldn't consider fasting if you have a lot of stress in your life right now or rely on caffeine a lot.
- Luke's experience being sent to a therapeutic boarding school at the age of 14 in the early 90s which has connections to a cult.
- The positive, character-building event that Luke and other students experienced during which they hiked up a mountain and stayed there for 3 days.
- Unpacking why it's so scary for people these days to go out in nature alone after being accustomed to city life for so long.
- King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: Rediscovering the Archetypes of the Mature Masculine by Robert Moore and Douglas Gillette
[33:10] Rites of Passage for Life
- The fact that there isn't really any set rites of passage for young boys or girls ages 13-18 and why they're so beneficial for their personal development.
- Exploring the connection of the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems plus the importance of balancing them.
- Why it's so beneficial to teach young kids how to be present with themselves through stillness and mindfulness.
- Dr. Joe Dispenza
[40:30] FEAR: For Everyone’s Attention, Responsibly | How To Address & Heal Core Wounds
- The difference between irrational and rational fear and why it's our responsibility to do an in-depth look at both types when they come up for us.
- Why Luke was consumed by fear when he became sober and how he began to unpack it in his heart and in his mind.
- What to do when anxious thoughts about the future start to come up for you.
- How to help someone when it's their orientation to look for all of the bad things that could happen in life.
- The power of watching the mind, instead of being the mind through practices like breathwork, float tanks, and meditation.
- Common fears people of not being worthy, not being loved, and fear of being alone or of death.
- How to begin to unpack the fears you hold in your heart and what they really mean.
[52:30] Healing the Allostatic Load of Chronic Stress
- Melatonin: Miracle Molecule by Dr. John Lieurance
- The powerful benefits of melatonin for the body especially as the primary supporter of the sympathetic system.
- 160 Chronotypes, Circadian Rhythm, & Oura – Petteri Lahtela
- The fact that our body does not know the difference between whether we're being chased by a bear or at home thinking about the idea of that; all it knows is that we are in a state of fear.
- How to let go of our fear of death, metaphorically “die,” say “yes” to non-existence and be present right now.
- Building a loving relationship with the ego, being aligned with it, and being grateful for it rather than fighting against it.
- Why the ego is so important as it keeps us alive and allows us to see and explore the embodied soul.
- The fact that psychedelics are not for everyone and deep inner work is required before considering them.
- Healing wisdom they have received from using psychedelics properly with expert guidance.
- The difference between fear and being sad about life experiences.
- How we can honor the sadness in our hearts that we experience in life or what may or will happen in the future.
[1:10:30] Keeping Your Heart Open
- How the body processes gratitude internally in our hearts when we're expressing sadness on the outside.
- What open eye meditation is and exploring its healing benefits when you need it.
- Why it can be a healthy practice to be still and contemplate death in order to enjoy life in the present moment.
- The tall order of trying to always keep your heart open rather than closed off, especially to the people that we care about the most in life.
- Why nothing good ever comes from closing off our hearts – whether for us or other people.
- How to lean into more love and openness when your initial reaction is to be closed off.
- How terrible things that happened to our ancestors are wired in our DNA so that we can survive down the road.
- Josh's long-term experience trying to heal his relationship with his father and ultimately letting go to help him find closure.
- 311 Mark Wolynn
- 366 Mark Wolynn
- Richard C. Schwartz
- How we can create more love within our hearts and let go of drama in our daily lives as our egos fight for survival.
[1:36:30] Addressing & Healing Our Core Wounds
- How to address core wounds you may in your heart have including a father wound like many people have right now in our modern world.
- Why is this happening to me….AGAIN?! by Dr. Michael Ryce
- WhyAgain.org
- Why many thoughts and emotions of hostility are coming up because people are not doing the inner work to resolve their generational issues.
- How to begin exploring the trauma and pain we have experienced firsthand in life.
- What steps Luke took to heal the abuse he received at a very young age.
- How Luke's trauma has fueled his spirituality and thirst to help and serve other people.
- 332 John Wineland
- Owning and taking responsibility for the trauma in our lives as we allow our hearts to be wide open.
- Exploring spirituality, God, and both the good and bad in the world that is expressed as God.
- Paul Chek | All is God
[1:52:30] The Medicine of the Wounded Healer
- The incredible healing that happens when the wounded healer has their hearts wide open and shares their wisdom with the world.
- How to get out of victimhood mode and begin to take ownership for your life and emotional state.
- Exploring the contrasts of good and bad in life.
- The power of emotional intelligence and asking for support when negative feelings start to come up.
- How to pause and acknowledge the emotions that you're experiencing right now in your heart.
- 435 Dr. John Gray | Wellness In Relationships: Testosterone, Estrogen, Semen Retention & Sexual Polarity
- Higher Powered: Autobiography Of A Sex And Love Yogi W/ John Gray
- The fact that we all start somewhere with our healing journey
- 394 Adam Roa | 3 Pillars For Radical Life Change: Poetry About Life, Love & Freedom
- The Great Unlearn: 61. Adam Roa | Love Is Our Expander
- The powerful gift of looking in our hearts and giving ourselves grace every single day and looking back at how far we've come in life.
- 192 Jason Prall
[2:24:30] Boost Your Health with MitoZen
- Dr. John Lieurance's company, MitoZen, and what they offer to customers including red light therapy and suppositories.
- How red light works and why it's so beneficial for the body.
- The difference between spending time in sunlight versus red light therapy.
- Why red light is such a great quick fix for people who are very busy.
- What methylene blue is and why some people need it but you must check with your doctor first before taking it.
- The Great Unlearn 82. Dr. John Lieurance | Optimizing Your Body’s Cleansing Process With Melatonin
- Why you do not want to take methylene blue if you're pregnant, taking SSRIs, psychedelics, or anything that could impact serotonin.
- Podcast Magazine
Power Quotes From The Show
[click_to_tweet tweet=”When we play the victim, we're just at the world's mercy but when you transform into the wounded healer, you are the one that carries the real medicine that you get to share with others. – Cal Callahan” quote=”When we play the victim, we're just at the world's mercy but when you transform into the wounded healer, you are the one that carries the real medicine that you get to share with others. – Cal Callahan”]
Witnessing Radical Body Vitality Through Fasting
“As you are able to improve the vitality of the body with a tool like fasting, you're going to be happier, process information better, and there will be parts of your brain that will be able to communicate with each other better and you'll be able to make sense of things. You'll be able to have a more powerful divine connection. Everything will work better and when we first start out on this journey, getting the vitality of the body is super important, especially for the brain and nervous system for radical health transformation.” – Dr. John Lieurance
Unpacking Fear vs Anxiety
“I notice that so many people use the words, ‘fear' and ‘anxiety' often interchangeably and when I first became sober, I used to just be so consumed with fear. However, as I started to unpack it, I realized that fear is when a wolf walks through the door and your life is in danger; a totally natural, healthy response is to be in fear and get away in that moment. Anxiety is if you're sitting here and there's no wolf on the property and you're obsessively thinking about what would happen if a wolf walked through the door right now. Fear is, in its truest sense for me, something that is immediate and righteous but anxiety is imaginary and always future-based that has no basis in reality. So, how can we uproot that anxiety and have greater open awareness that keeps us grounded in this present moment?” – Luke Storey
The Wounded Healer's Magic
“The magic really happens when you take yourself out of victimhood and take ownership of your life. When we play the victim, we're just at the world's mercy and totally powerless. Opposite of that, when you transform into the wounded healer, you are the one that carries the real medicine that you get to share with others.” – Cal Callahan
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Links From Today's Show
- 400 Cal Callahan
- 361 Luke Storey
- 436 Dr. John Lieurance
- Part 1 Vision Quest: Honoring Our Ancestors
- Part 2 Vision Quest: Touching Death
- 405 Tim Corcoran
- The Great Unlearn: Episode 59: Vision Quests, The Hungry Ghost, and Armoring Ourselves with Overindulgences | Josh Trent
- 196 Aubrey Marcus : Owning The Day, Open Relationships, & Skipping Breakfast?
- MitoZen
- The Great Unlearn Ep 82. Dr. John Lieurance | Optimizing Your Body’s Cleansing Process With Melatonin
- Not Just for Sleep: Melatonin | The Master Molecule & Next Level Biohacks
- H.V.M.N.
- Feel Free by Botanic Tonics
- 401 Jerry Ross
- Dr. Joe Dispenza
- Melatonin: Miracle Molecule by Dr. John Lieurance
- 160 Chronotypes, Circadian Rhythm, & Oura – Petteri Lahtela
- 311 Mark Wolynn
- 366 Mark Wolynn
- Richard C. Schwartz
- Why is this happening to me….AGAIN?! by Dr. Michael Ryce
- WhyAgain.org
- 332 John Wineland
- Paul Chek | All is God
- 435 Dr. John Gray | Wellness In Relationships: Testosterone, Estrogen, Semen Retention & Sexual Polarity
- Higher Powered: Autobiography Of A Sex And Love Yogi W/ John Gray
- 394 Adam Roa | 3 Pillars For Radical Life Change: Poetry About Life, Love & Freedom
- The Great Unlearn: 61. Adam Roa | Love Is Our Expander
- 192 Jason Prall
- The Great Unlearn 82. Dr. John Lieurance | Optimizing Your Body’s Cleansing Process With Melatonin
- Podcast Magazine
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About Cal Callahan
Cal Callahan, a retired trader, hosts The Great Unlearn Podcast and runs Unlearn Ventures — an investment fund and incubator for forward-thinking projects. He lives in Austin, TX with his wife, three kids, two dogs and pet pig named Petunia.
Through The Great Unlearn Podcast, Cal shares conversations with some the world’s leading experts & performers to help men and women unlearn their way into a new way of being.
About Dr. John Lieurance
Naturopath & Chiropractic Neurologist, Dr. John Lieurance, has been in private practice for over 27 Years. Currently with Advanced Rejuvenation, a Multi Disciplinary Clinic, with a focus on Alternative & Regenerative Medicine, Naturopathic Medicine, Chiropractic Functional Neurology, Functional Cranial Release (FCR), Lumomed, Lyme Disease, Mold Illness and many other Neurological Conditions.
His treatments have been proven very successful for treating many chronic neurological and chronic infection conditions. He believes that toxins and infections are at the root of many conditions including Autoimmune, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, Inner Ear Conditions, and most Degenerative Neurologic Conditions.
About Luke Storey
Luke Storey a former Hollywood Celebrity Fashion Stylist, motivational speaker, kundalini yoga and meditation teacher, world-class biohacker, and host of The Life Stylist Podcast. He’s spent the past twenty-two years developing and refining the ultimate lifestyle, based on the most powerful principles of health and spirituality, while at the same time embracing the technology and modern conveniences of urban living.
Using himself as a human research lab, Luke has explored a broad and sometimes extreme variety of measures to obtain optimal health, performance, and well-being. From surviving being injected with poisonous Amazonian frog venom, to enduring weeks of neurofeedback meditation in an isolation chamber, Luke has scoured the earth for the most cutting edge as well as ancient technologies of healing and transformation.
Luke has tenaciously applied the results of his field research and used them to not only completely transform his own life but also the lives of thousands of fans and followers through his various media channels and speaking engagements.
As a transformational speaker and entrepreneur, Luke continues to share his strategies for healing and happiness through his innovative and highly effective Lifestyle Design teachings, his Youtube channel, and wildly popular podcast, The Life Stylist.
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